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Member Since:

Feb 19, 2009

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Half Marathon Finish

Running Accomplishments:

2:43 Marathon

1:17:45 Half Marathon

59:09 10 miles

17:15 5k

Still Running (again) after all these years

Short-Term Running Goals:

get back to it and not be a fat blob

Long-Term Running Goals:

Enjoy running my whole life

Personal:

Married 21 years- - two kids - 18 year old boy and  15 year old girl

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not sure what to do - this week is junked already but I was hoping to pick it up today

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From DaleG on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 14:09:47 from 67.2.10.194

I hope your Achilles starts to feel better. Mine was acting up before my stress fracture and it feels better now that I'm cross training.

I just saw your planned races for this year. Looks good.

What 50k's and marathons are you thinking about doing?

From timp on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 17:07:30 from 144.188.24.30

Hey DAle - thanks - it feels ok walking around today. I might have added too much speed on older shoes last week. So maybe another day off today for good measure.

There is a 50K in South Carolina that I've done the last three years that I'll do in June. And then a new one for me that is nearby. It is supposed to be really good and diffucult. It is called the Sweetwater 50K, sweeth20races.com. Not sure on the marathon this fall. Maybe Chickamauga

or Atlanta. Something close to home.

How's the leg doing?

From Teena Marie on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 17:14:08 from 67.2.100.67

Your achilles???? Sad!!! :( :( :(

Be smart! Enjoy the short break. No guilt allowed!!!

From timp on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 17:15:48 from 144.188.24.30

yeah thanks Teena - it is just plain annoying right now but I know from these boards how it can be if you don't nip it in the bud.

From Teena Marie on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 17:19:00 from 67.2.100.67

Yep!

Be smart!!! :) :) :)

Work on your pecs and core (your wife will love you for it)!!!! :) :) :)

From RivertonPaul on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 17:23:58 from 67.42.27.114

Dang Achilles.

From timp on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 17:26:01 from 144.188.24.30

Teena - good idea - I've been trying to do better core stuff.

Paul - how's your foot doing?

From MarcE on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 23:58:50 from 204.16.82.120

Achilles, eh? That stinks. Maybe I'll have to come out there and run Chickamauga with you. (well, not with you, but on the same day. :)

From timp on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 07:33:00 from 66.167.50.219

yeah man come on over and do it - if you like the small ones this one is fun. They cap the marathon at 500 or 700 or something

From Smooth on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 00:06:22 from 67.2.121.181

How are you feeling?

From timp on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 10:45:17 from 144.188.24.30

hey SMooth - I did 8 yesterday and the foot started hurting again. I'm icing and all that - not sure what to do at this point

From Teena Marie on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:06:19 from 67.2.100.67

Hey Tim~

RivertonPaul is the guru of achilles injuries (sadly, through experience). I am going to send him over to your blog so that he can offer some advice. :)

From timp on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:11:00 from 144.188.24.30

thanks Teena! -

From Teena Marie on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:13:20 from 67.2.100.67

btw, is this the same leg or opposite leg of the one you had hamstring issues with?

From timp on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:16:03 from 144.188.24.30

Teena it is the opposite leg. I am sure it must be related somehow. I've read that achilles tightness can be due to calf tightness, so I've been trying to roll my calf to loosen it up. worth a shot anyway

From RivertonPaul on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:18:18 from 67.42.27.114

Tim, you should do the stuff in this article: http://www.scribd.com/doc/21715686/Heavy-Load-Eccentric-Calf-Muscle-Training-for-the-Treatment-of-Chronic-Achilles-Tendinosis

The key seems to be adding weight once you can tolerate it. I didn't do this stuff in time so now I'm in bad shape. Good luck.

From Teena Marie on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:20:11 from 67.2.100.67

Tim~

I have some ideas. I have a couple of classes that I need to go to this morning, but I will get back to you this afternoon! :)

From timp on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:32:36 from 144.188.24.30

thanks!

From Teena Marie on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 17:39:11 from 67.2.100.67

Hey there Tim.

Okay, I looked over the article that Paul sent (which was great) plus looked over what you have been running as of late. I have a couple of thoughts:

1st: I am pretty certain that your achilles injury is a compensation injury. This is good and bad news. The reason why I believe it is a compensation injury is because it fits the profile. The majority of compensation injuries are on the opposite leg of the original injury and are on a diagonal from the original injury. Which is exactly how the hamstrings and achilles of the opposite leg line up. In other words, I am more concerned about your hamstring. If I remember right, it was the semitendinosis. However, the eccentric exercises listed in Paul's blog would be helpful. Also, crossfriction massage and/or stripping the tendon seems to be helpful. In addition to these things, KT taping it can add some additional support to the tendon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fetKNNZdaac. I love Chris Harper. I have talked to him numerous times via email and feel very confident with how he tapes.

As for your semitendinosus muscle (the heart of what I believe is the real problem), if it is not improving (which it certainly sounds like it is not) you need to back off. Really. That doesn't necessarily mean that you have to stop running. However, hamstring strains occur at a much greater frequency with sprinters. Your track workouts really should stop for right now. If you are set on continuing to run through this injury, at least shorten your stride. Sounds like you are teetering on a grade 2 strain.

Seriously Tim, your body will continue to compensate if you continue to run. Now it will not only compensate in order to protect the hamstring, it will now also try and protect the achilles. Everything will be off balance. It's a recipe for disaster.

If you are going to try the tape, you might as well tape the hamstring as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqNbgidEjtk

Please though ... no matter what ... no speedwork right now. PLEASE!

(And yes, stretching and massaging your calf muscles, both gastrocs and soleus will also be helpful.)

From timp on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 19:38:21 from 144.188.24.30

thanks so much Paul and Teena - I will put some time into investigating this and taking your advise. I have already shortened my stride and have no desire to do any speed. I am sure that is what caused this achilles strain in the first place.

The hamstring feels a lot better after those 4 days off so maybe there is some hope there. It isn't 100% but certainly better.

So I'll take things easy and do what i have to do. This all comes right before i signed up for races so now I don't know what to do. I will hold off for the trail race I want to do.

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